Showing posts with label Illegal Aliens. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Illegal Aliens. Show all posts

Sunday, March 22, 2009

More On Illegal Aliens...

And you wonder why health care costs are out of control!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These are extreme cases but there are thousands more which create a great deal of cost.
Please listen to this---if they are illegal then it is illegal to grant medical care---a very simple solution to a huge problem




Maybe someone should tell Obama, if we would stop paying for the medical services for illegal's our health care cost quite possibly would be more reasonable


MY RESPONSE:

This story has to be at least 5 or 6 years old and is used for propaganda purposes from the right wing, nativist, CHRISTIAN activists that are anti-immigration, prejudicial bigots. No one disputes the medical costs involved in treating the poor, non-insured sick in this country...legal or not, but medical costs, in general, are a separate subject best left to the single payer, universal coverage debate, another shameful aspect of "the greatest country in the world" bullshit.

This subject is really one having to do with illegals...and the economic misrepresentations surrounding them. The single, most identifiable problem at the heart of this dilemma is that non-documented workers in this country are not entitled to Medicaid. Period. What is not taken into consideration is the economic contribution that illegals make to the economy...which, ironically, benefits everyone save them. Florida enjoys a particular advantage derived from their illegals that isn't matched by any other state with the possible exception of California. Because of Florida's climate and their ability to multi-crop agricultural products, triple cropping in some cases, they maximize the benefits of low cost, no benefits, labor provided by illegals. The tomato growing industry, for example, which produces over 80% of the country's winter tomatoes, utilizes immigration labor as a practical indentured servant class.

Tomato pickers currently earn about 45 cents per 32# bucket of tomatoes...$0.014. In 1980, almost 30 years ago, they received 40 cents a pound. Chantra tells me tomatoes currently sell for about $4.00#. Bend over, pick 32 pounds of tomatoes, one by one, fill a bucket then carry it to a flat bed truck..voila! you've just made a quarter, a nickle and two pennies...do this 10 times and you can then buy a cup of coffee at a Starbucks (not including the TAX)!! While McDonald's and YUM Brands, bowing to activist pressure from labor and religious groups, are willing to pay an additional penny a pound to pickers, which would improve their lot considerably, Burger king and the Florida Tomato Growers Exchange are not...in fact, the Growers Exchange is threatening fines against any grower that even shares information on wages and tonnage picked with anyone.

The point of this is that pickers in Florida, illegals the country over, are used and abused for financial gain but are castigated and denigrated when they are sick and not allowed to participate in Medicade...while most of their incomes are TAXED locally and their FICA payroll deductions forfeited and never used. Illegals that use phony and fake Social Security numbers effectively forfeit over $7,000,000,000 annually in FICA taxes...what happens to it? Could not a pro-rata share of this $7B that comes from each state be returned to the states for reimbursement of their medical and educational costs attributable to illegals?

The bottom line on illegals in this country, notwithstanding common morality and questions of societal ethics, is that they are an indispensable, positive part of a $14Trillion economy and should be medically taken care of for that reason alone...and since many would proclaim that we are a "Christian" nation, its about fucking time we acted like one instead of the greatest killing nation in the world.

Saturday, August 09, 2008

ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION BREAKS THE BACK OF FLORIDA HOSPITAL(S)

June 16, 2008

Martin Memorial Medical Center in Stuart Florida is indicative of 51 other Florida community hospitals who are also financially struggling or failing and who are facing bankruptcy due to the high cost of treating illegal immigrants (and paying ludicrous illegal alien lawsuit financial settlements) - that vast majority of which never pay for the medical treatment they or their family receives.

Stuart Florida geographical area has many typical red flags that hospital and city administrators should have seen as a reason for the hospital's pending bankruptcy.

1) Nearby Jupiter Florida is considered a "sanctuary city" whose pro illegal anti law enforcement policies were recently exposed by a Florida lawman.

2)The local St. Peter Catholic Church encourages and supports illegal immigration into the area.

3) A taxpayer funded "hiring hall" was opened in Jupiter Florida - with the encouragement of the Catholic Charities & against the wishes of local citizens (video here) . Thus they city provided a taxpayer funded site for lawbreakers - (that the community would likely never consider or fund for their own American teenagers) and produced a draw for even more illegals to move into the Martin Memorial Hospital area:

"The El Sol Neighborhood Resource Center was the town's solution for stopping ''migrant workers'' from lining the streets each day to wait for employers to drive by and hire them. Sometimes as many as 100 ''day laborers'' gathered each morning. Neighborhood residents complained they blocked traffic, scared people and created a public nuisance. So, backed by legal opinions that said the center did not violate any laws, the town of Jupiter bought a building next to town hall and the police station for $1.9 million and encouraged Catholic Charities, along with the migrant advocacy group Corn Maya and community volunteers, to lease it for $1 a year, reports the South Florida Sun-Sentinel."

4) Florida (an other US states) agricultural businesses, such as citrus and sugar growers, balk at having to go through the steps for legal immigrant "guest worker" labor and providing transportation, housing, etc for legal laborers. Thus they seem to prefer to continue attracting and hiring cheap illegal immigrant labor. But they also feel increasingly compelled to go the "legal" route since illegal immigration has become a "hot button issue".

Goldstein estimated that U.S. Agriculture companies have 2.5 million foreign workers, about 60 percent of whom are illegal....Local (FL) citrus growers who have recently begun using H-2A agreed that, despite the burden of red tape, the program is the only viable alternative (from using illegal immigrants) for recruiting a stable labor force....

5) According to CBS news - across the USA there are at least 300,000 "anchor babies" born each year - clearly many of these babies are born - without payment to hospitals - and ultimately at taxpayer's expense. Florida hospitals undoubtedly are affected. Also "the latest estimated costs of educating the children of illegal aliens, many of whom were anchor babies, is out and it is set at an astounding $28.6 billion per year to the taxpayers of the United States. - Floridian taxpayers are undoubtedly paying their "fair" share.

A recent Rasmussen survey shows that American's opinion, toward illegal immigration, has little changed since last year's overwhelming public rejection of the proposed McCain Kennedy (amnesty) legislation. "63% believe that border security is more important than amnesty". Americans still overwhelmingly welcome LEGAL immigrants. Yet, there is plenty of outrage at illegal immigrants who flagrantly break US laws as well as many produce anchor babies who allow them to tap into taxpayer paid welfare benefits.

The cost of illegal immigration is high - see here and the cost of jailing illegal immigrants for both immigration status as well as crimes committed other than violation of immigration laws is astronomical - a quick search will produce countless states and cities that are buckling under the cost of illegal alien incarceration.

Why should more taxpayer be further penalized by having to provide their hard earned money to be used to bail out Florida hospitals? Especially when the crisis is directly caused by the clear dereliction of duty of the localities city officials who refused to demand that US immigration laws be enforced? Many like Marco Rubio, below, want to hide the deleterious effects of rampant illegal immigration. It should also be noted that the illegal immigrant is not faultless. The vast majority are adults who willingly and knowingly break US laws to sneak into the USA consistently do not want to take responsibility for their own bad choices. So again the question is asked - why should we?



Feds Ignore Hospital’s Illegal Immigrant Reports
Fri, 06/13/2008 - 11:50 — Judicial Watch Blog

A Florida hospital administrator whose facility is overwhelmed with the exorbitant cost of treating illegal immigrants told state lawmakers that federal authorities usually ignore when the hospital reports illegal immigrants.

Testifying before a state House committee, the frustrated Martin Memorial Medical Center official also told legislators that the hospital has spent more than a quarter of a million dollars to fight a lawsuit from an uninsured illegal immigrant returned to his native country after racking up a $1.5 million bill.

The lawsuit has further burdened the south Florida facility already overwhelmed with sick and uninsured illegal immigrants. It involves a Guatemalan Mayan farm worker who was hospitalized for 3 ½ years at the Stuart facility with severe brain injuries sustained in a car wash.

After receiving a judge’s permission, the hospital put him on a plane back to Guatemala in 2003 and it has been fighting a costly legal battle since. The case was appealed in 2006 and is still pending in south Florida’s Martin County. This means the hospital’s legal bills will continue mounting.

The facility has also spent a substantial amount of money treating a brain damaged illegal immigrant from Mexico for the past two years and officials estimate that half of the 2,170 births last year were to illegal immigrants. That, of course, means no insurance and no money to pay for the costly medical tab.

The recent House testimony got practically no media coverage and was attended by only a few people at the state capitol in Tallahassee. After all, Florida’s House Speaker, Marco Rubio, is an ardent defender of illegal immigrants who certainly doesn’t want to publicize the dark side of illegal immigration or the huge toll it’s having on his state.

source: http://theopinionator.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/06/illegal-immigra.html‏


Marty's Note:

What bullshit....they could begin saving money by firing this whiny, efficient cunt's (if Dr. Strangelove, McCain, can use the word in public, so can I) ass. $100M is just about what the Gators athletic department brings in..I'll bet a dime this efficient diabolical machine of an administrator couldn't tell me what fraction 100M of the State's $90BILLION in revenues represents... and we are talking about LIVES here, not some fucking carpeted weight room for a bunch of fucking goons that can't understand "see Spot run", like Ned and the First Reader. This kind of shit is appalling...especially for anyone contending they are Christians. That the wealthiest society in the history of civilization has assholes bitching about the cost of keeping a veritable handful of poor devils alive...while spending untold BILLIONS of dollars to effectively splatter kids' brains about like tapioca from 40,000' and 15 miles out of sight, is the most disgusting indictment of a fucked up hypocritical country's moral compass that I can imagine. Let's just teach our God fearing, starched and prim nurses to suffocate these fucking bastards...no injections, just a no-cost, quiet, pillow suffocation will do the trick...preferably on Sunday mornings when the hospitals are bereft of visitors and week day activity...everyone is in Church. Then simply wheel the bodies to the incinerator chute at the end of the hall...another savings, no cremation fees! God damn! That cost effective analysis class I took at Yale would be hooahing and buying me beer all night down at Morrie's. Is this a great country, or what?