Received: Sept 14, 2007
Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his shoe and tried to light it?
Did you know his trial is over?
Did you know he was sentenced?
Did you see/hear any of the judge's comments on TV or Radio?
Didn't think so.
Everyone should hear what the judge had to say.
Ruling by Judge William Young, US District Court.
Prior to sentencing, the Judge asked the defendant if he had anything to say. His response: After admitting his guilt to the court for the record, Reid also admitted his 'allegiance to Osama bin Laden, to Islam, and to the religion of Allah,' defiantly stating, 'I think I will not apologize for my actions,' and told the court 'I am at war with your **country.'
Judge Young then delivered the statement quoted below:
January 30, 2003, United States vs. Reid.
Judge Young: 'Mr. Richard C. Reid, hearken now =o the sentence the Court imposes upon you.
On counts 1, 5 and 6 the court sentences you to life in prison in the custody of the United States Attorney General. On counts 2, 3, 4 and 7, the Court sentences you to 10 years in prison on each count, the sentence on each count to run consecutively. (That's 80 years.)
On count 8 the Court sentences you to the mandatory 30 years again, to be served consecutively to the 80 years just imposed. The Court imposes upon you for each of the eight counts a fine of $250,000 that's an aggregate fine of $2 billion. The Court accepts the government's recommendation with respect to restitution and orders restitution in the amount of $298.17 to Andre Bousquet and $5,784 to American Airlines.
The Court imposes upon you an $800 special assessment. The Court imposes upon you five years supervised release simply because the law requires it. But the life sentences are real life sentences so I need go no further.
This is the sentence that is provided for by our statutes. It is a fair and just sentence. It is a =ighteous sentence.
Now, let me explain this to you. We are not afraid of you or any of your terrorist co-conspirators, Mr. Reid. We are Americans. We have been through the fire before. There is too much war talk here and I say that to everyone with the utmost respect. Here in this court, we deal with individuals as individuals and care for individuals as individuals. As human beings, we reach out for justice.
You are not an enemy combatant. You are a terrorist. You are not a soldier in any war. You are a terrorist. =o give you that reference, to call you a soldier, gives you far too much =tature. Whether the officers of government do it or your attorney does it, or if you think you are a soldier. You are not ----- you are a terrorist. And we do not negotiate with terrorists. We do not meet with terrorists. We do not sign documents with terrorists. We hunt them down one by one and
bring them to justice.
So war talk is way out of line in this court. You are a big fellow. But you are not that big. You're no warrior. I've known warriors. You are a terrorist. A species of criminal that is guilty of multiple attempted murders. In a very real sense, State Trooper Santiago had it right when you first were taken off that plane and into custody and you wondered where the press and the TV crews were, and he said: 'You're no big deal.'
You are no big deal.
What your able counsel and that the equally able United States attorneys have grappled with and what I have as honestly as I know how tried to grapple with, is why you did something so horrific. What was it that led you here to this courtroom today?
I have listened respectfully to what you have to say. And I ask you to search your heart and ask yourself what sort of unfathomable fate led you to do what you are guilty and admit you are guilty of doing? And, I have an answer for you. It may not satisfy you, but as I search this entire record, it comes as close to understanding as I know.
It seems to me you hate the one thing that to us is most precious. You hate our freedom. Our individual freedom. Our individual freedom to live as we choose, to come and go as we choose, to believe or not believe as we individually choose. Here, in this society, the very wind carries freedom. It carries it everywhere from sea to shining sea. It is because we prize individual freedom so much that you are here in this beautiful courtroom. So that everyone can see, truly see, that justice is administered fairly, individually, and discretely. It is for freedom's sake that your lawyers are striving so vigorously on your behalf, have filed appeals, will go on in their representation of you before other judges.
We Americans are all about freedom. Because we all know that the way we treat you, Mr. Reid, is the measure of our own liberties. Make no mistake though. It is yet t rue that we will bare any burden; pay any price, to preserve our freedoms. Look around this courtroom. Mark it well. The world is not going to long remember what you or I say here. The day after tomorrow, it will be forgotten, but this, however, will long endure.
Here in this courtroom and courtrooms all across America, the American people will gather to see that justice, individual justice, justice, not war, individual justice is in fact being done. The very
President of the United States through his officers will have to come into courtrooms and lay out evidence on which specific matters can be judged and juries of citizens will gather to sit and judge that evidence democratically, to mold and shape and refine our sense of justice.
See that flag, Mr. Reid? That's the flag of the United States of America. That flag will fly there long after this is all forgotten. That flag stands for freedom. And it always will.
Mr. Custody Officer. Stand him down.
So, how much of this =udge's comments did we hear on our TV sets? We need more judges like Judge Young, but that's another subject. Pass this around. Everyone should and needs to hear what this fine judge had to say. Powerful words that strike home. God bless America
Please SEND this----------so that every American has a chance to read it.
Marty's Response:
Yes, as a matter of fact, I did know about this and read the sentence when it determined, 3 years ago.
What is the point in distributing this now, in September 2007?
I believe Judge Young is a fair and decent man, he is patriotic and means well regarding our country and the sentence was appropriate to the crime, however, I have a problem with his remarks.
The Judge is naive and has no understanding of Middle East cultural history. I fully realize that the common reaction to the Judge's remarks would be one of agreement by most Americans...but there is a bit more to reality than convicting and sentencing a 'terrorist' and espousing the patriotic slogans du jour.
Let's look at what the Judge had to say.
"There is too much war talk here and I say that to everyone with the utmost respect." The president of the U.S. constantly reminds us that we ARE at WAR. Does not the judge realize this is the REALITY of the situation? Who does the judge think we are at WAR with if it is not the defendant? The defendant certainly believed himself to be at WAR with us. And, now that I think of it, is not a conventional soldier in a conventional army a "terrorist" from the standpoint of the entire enemy population, including civilians? When General Sherman invented 'total' war during the civil war, meaning total destruction of the enemy population, including civilians in mufti, he was hailed as a hero. When the civilian victims of the fire bombing of Dresden heard the drone of bombers overhead and knew the indiscriminate incendiary bombs would follow, killing and burning women, children, babies and old people, non-combatants if you will, did they not consider the pilots and bombardiers TERRORISTS? I believe the judge is woefully lacking in any understanding of reality. He certainly knows nothing of what constitutes WAR. If our president tells us we are at war, is it not logical to presume that our enemy thinks likewise?
"We do not negotiate with terrorists. We do not meet with terrorists. We hunt them down one by one and bring them to justice." Why doesn't Judge Young get his head in the game? If we did as the judge says we would have "hunted" down bin Ladin long ago instead of pre-emptively and illegally invaded a sovereign country where there were NO terrorists, OR ANY GOD DAMNED ARMY THAT HAD PROVOKED WAR AGAINST AMERICANS!! That, Judge Young, is reality, of which you are obviously blind.
"It seems to me you hate the one thing that to us is most precious. You hate our freedom. Our individual freedom to live as we choose, to come and go as we choose, to believe or not belive as we individually choose. Here, in this society, the very wind carries freedom. It carries it everywhere from sea to shining sea. It is because we prize individual freedom so much ........." Forgive me, I can't help myself...this is bullshit worthy of an eighth grade civics essay. Judge Young must have been up for re-election, this is pap. Speaking of wind, the judge would better serve whoever he is trying to impress with this juvenile propaganda were he to mention the noxious air we breathe. Why doesn't this horrific defendant hate Danes, or Swedes, or Frenchmen, or the Swiss, or Italians, or any number of other worldly citizens that actually have more freedom and a higher standard of living than Americans? Why isn't this defendant attempting to kill Peruvians, or Canadians, or Icelanders?
Judge Young, to Arabs that have resented Caucasians for hundreds of years going back to the Crusades and through the years of Colonialism, the geopolitical machinations of WWll and the enforced hegemony brought on since oil was discovered in THEIR lands, they want us the fuck out of THEIR lands, THEIR countries. They want to live THEIR lives as we live ours, they want THEIR religion, THEIR customs and THEIR natural resources. Would the good, sanctimonious judge not declare jihad against the Chinese were the Chinese dominating us, controlling our vast coal resources, invading a neighbor Caucasian, Christian country?
"We Americans are all about freedom." This is total bullshit. Americans are all about money. This defendant doesn't give a god damn what is or isn't important to Americans as long as Americans stay in America. This war will never end and we will be in Iraq, and Iran next, for as long as their oil holds out. Judge Young, its not about freedom, whatever that means these days with this fascist government we have, its the oil, stupid.
Each time I see this, (why aren't these Christofascist pieces ever signed?) its rather hackneyed having been circulated for over 5 years, the first, and irrepressible, thought that crosses my mind is the definition of 'moron.' I remember studying the origins and applications of the Benet-Simon and Stanford Benet tests to determine a person's intelligence quotient. Though I always doubted the veracity of a somewhat pseudo-scientific, quantitative method of arriving at a person's ability to reason and learn, I was, at the same time, fascinated with the bracketed scales that were formulated and I harbored a hidden fear that were MY IQ truly discovered, I could possibly be relegated to one of the classes designated below average. These were: 'moron' indicating an IQ of 50-69, 'imbecile' from 20-49 and 'idiot' below 20. Adult morons were generally thought to have the mental capacity of 7 to 10 year olds. Whilst these categories have long gone the route of being professionally passe and societally abusive in common vernacular, I find the term 'MORON' (IQ=50-69), as it was once used by the American Psychiatric Association, especially applicable to anyone that would tout the thinly veiled nativist prejudice so blatant in the specious "facts", supposedly published by the LATIMES. The TIMES did no such thing, as a call to their information desk will verify.
Let's look at it.
1. "40% of all workers in L. A. County are working for cash and not paying taxes." This is a patently false, and stupid, statement as even any moron could deduce provided he/she got off their bigotted ass and did some 7 year old thinking. A. The inference is that these 2,262,519 (Bureau of Labor Statistics 2006 census estimates based on 5,656,299 full and part time workers ) workers are, for the most part, illegal. First, the Census Bureau does not verify citizenship in its surveys so I would challenge this preposterous presumption on its face. Second, using Bureau of Labor Statistics ratios and interpolating the numbers, the entire Hispanic workforce in LA County works for cash and doesn't pay any taxes, i.e., beyond incredulous! Go ahead, figure it out...I'll give you a head start...which morons deserve due to their mental handicap..their are 4,653,...ah, hell, call it 5,000,000 Spics in LA County.
2. "95% of murder warrants in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens." Aside from available data which disproves this statement, I called a Sheriff's Homicide Detective friend to get the actual 'skinny.' Suffice to say its 'BULLSHIT.' If anyone cares to argue the point I'd not only be pleased to accommodate you I will also bet you $1, 000.00 I can disprove this statement and you cannot prove this statement. Unless hundreds of Mexicans and other Hispanics have changed their names to such as Jawain and Mohammed.
3. See # 2.
4. "Over 66% of all births in LA County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal......" A. It is illegal for hospitals to verify citizenship so how does whoever wrote and cooked up these numbers know? Could they have possibly taken all Hispanic names of maternity cases and spuriously inferred this? Would not the number of Medi-Cal births of Central and South Americans swell this number? Incidentally, just HOW were Mexicans segregated in the accounting of this number? Would not the number of Hispanic, poor, American citizens delivering babies in LA hospitals actually increase this number beyond 100%? Exactly, exactly what was the methodology used to garner these statistics? By the way, of the remaining 1/3 Medi-Cal births, what are the respective proportions for poor whites and poor Blacks, Koreans, Chinese, Japanese, Arabs, Viet Namese, Cambodians, etc., surely, these figures would have had to be collected along with the "Mexican" numbers, wouldn't they? This is such an egregious use of bullshit that I think I should vomit, chunky, on my keyboard.
5. "Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally." I have no idea how many illegals are held in some form of detention facility awaiting deportation but they are not felonious 'inmates'. This statement clearly intends the figures to apply to prison and jail convicts. The usual false figure bandied about is 25% to 30%, whatever, they are both outrageous fabrications. A report from the U.S. Justice Dept. in mid 2006 stated that the "non-citizen" population of all Federal and State prisons and jails in California represented 9% of the total population, this included any ethnicity and any permanent resident and any visa holder of any type along with illegals. Further, the California Dept. of Corrections and Rehabilitation (an oxymoron) in their 4th Quarter 2006 report on the 81,612 prison population of LA County, classified 9,350 as illegal, that is 11.46% of the highest illegal concentrations in the state with the highest number of illegals in the U.S. Additionally, despite these lies of anti-Hispanic, for the most part hypocritical, Christian assholes, Hispanics, illegal or legal, are 450% less likely to be incarcerated as Blacks...regarding whites, U.S. native born adult whites are 3 TIMES more likely to be incarcerated than foreign born adults. Look it up. Have any of the proponents of this bullshit read the report of FAIR, the Federation for American Immigration Reform, generally considered as an anti illegal organization? They published a report titled, "Illegal Immigrants Represent a Disproportionately High Share of the Prison Population." Its flawed. They stated that illegals comprised 3.1% of the population but 4.54% of the prison population. Even if this were true, which it isn't, an under educated, poor segment of any population would be expected to have an incarceration rate greater than 1.1% of their share of the total population. According to the DOJ, Bureau of Justice Statistics in their year-end 2006 bulletin NCJ 215092, the U.S. prison population was comprised of 40% Blacks, 35% Whites and 20% Hispanic, which includes any ethnicity born in any Hispanic country. Correspond these figures with their respective share of the U.S. population: Blacks 12.1%, White 74.7% and Hispanic 14.5%. Who is bitching about the cost of incarcerating an incredibly disproportionate number of Blacks in prison?
6. "Over 300,000 illegals in Los Angeles are living in garages." Is this meant as a joke? Any Angeleno over 16 knows 300,000 middle class WHITES can't afford to buy or rent a garage in LA!!
I'm tired of this. How many people that have read the attached had nothing but a smug, self-satisfied, perverse, nationalistic (fascist) sense of "yea, kick the dirty bastards out of OUR country?" Then went to church on Sunday? Jesus Christ, be honest, and don't give me the money and cost crap...it doesn't wash. How many of you can tell me what the current velocity of $1 is? How many can tell me what happens to the $7,000,000,000 paid into FICA, Social Secirity, by illegals that is forfeited every year? C'mon, quick, what happens to that $7B? How many of you can tell me what the amount of the Farm Bill, which is corporate welfare, a god damn hand-out to capitalists that, ironically, practice socialism with YOUR money? For your information, its $27,000,000,000...and the Bill will pass next week, of course you all knew this. How many poor farmers do you know? How many of you realize how food costs have spiraled due to $4 corn and $10 wheat? How many of you have filet mignon every week? When you pass on the T-bones why don't you write your Congressmen and bitch about these billions, that you pay for in direct hand-outs to multi-millionaires then get screwed again when you go to Safeway? Anyone passing the attached crap along or believing it, is a bona fide moron if they justify their phony so-called patriotic, sanctimonious attitude because of "their taxes", which THEY all chisel and fraudulently cheat assidiously, like a badge of honor ...the truth is you are bigots, prejudiced, hypocritical, phony Christians and you should be ashamed of yourselves. Would Jesus Christ, your professed Savior, pass this on with His imprimater? I doubt it. I wonder how many of get off gossiping about the god damn Mexicans and all their grubby, snot-nosed kids fucking up your kids' schools...and, holy shit, "we're paying for it!!" Aren't all Mexicans Catholic..and they practice their religion better than you do...how many of you Catholic moms wouldn't think of having 6 or 7 kids but you sure as hell aren't going to abstain from fucking, are you? Or using "rubbers'! Isn't this against Catholic dogma, ergo, a sin? God, what phonies! This country has always had wacko nativist, nationalistic fascists like you: there were the Puritans that would torture (is Dickhead a Puritan?) and pillory people not of their standard, there were those who hated the Irish and all 'Romans' (Rum, Romanism and Rebellion), there was the Bolshevik scare of the 1920s and 30s, the Blacks of the 50s and 60s and now you have your 'wet backs.' With people of your ilk, if it wasn't Latinos it would be some other group, any group that doesn't conform to your lights...and you have the temerity to castigate theocracies, Allah and Muslims!.. I'd love to know how many of you supported our illegal, criminal invasion of a sovereign country by war criminals...and since you want Mexicans shot, or rounded up like cattle in a good old national hoe down and kicked out of the country, why aren't you passing emails that support Iraqis that want us out of their country? Jesus would. I'm sure its in the Bible if you look hard enough. Creamy puke this time.
PASS THIS TO YOUR EMAIL BUDDIES!
M.
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